tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post2287578640465736580..comments2023-11-03T19:05:08.512+11:00Comments on Harry Clarke: Case for a migration policy discriminating against entrants with above-average health costsUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-12006958068992662212008-11-29T13:01:00.000+11:002008-11-29T13:01:00.000+11:00andrew bolt did some stories on the sudanese crime...andrew bolt did some stories on the sudanese crime rate if you lookAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-20213338424106647842008-11-21T07:59:00.000+11:002008-11-21T07:59:00.000+11:00Blandy, You are right it is the same principle but...Blandy, You are right it is the same principle but bringing skilled people in not only conveys skill externalities - it also is a distributionally superior policy because its income impacts are on the well-to-do not the poor.hchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799594181016858701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-78039923141176234632008-11-19T16:45:00.000+11:002008-11-19T16:45:00.000+11:00I think it all depends on who's utility we intend ...I think it all depends on who's utility we intend to maximise.<BR/><BR/>Harry's argument holds if we are concerned about the utility of people in Australia only. We effectively let people in only if they make the locals better off (or at least indifferent), thus reaching a Pareto efficient outcome between the locals and the immigrants.<BR/><BR/>In the case of disabled immigrants coming in to the country, they impose a higher cost onto society and therefore their immigration may only be efficient if there is some sort of cash payment to the locals, otherwise the locals lose out.<BR/><BR/>Either we exclude these people from immigrating to Australia (as is currently the case), or make sure they do not impose any externalities on the existing population.<BR/><BR/>Our government already attempts to bring skilled workers to Australia with attractive offers; how is this any different from requiring disabled people to pay more?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-14793247275571508322008-11-19T16:35:00.000+11:002008-11-19T16:35:00.000+11:00Of course you should be able to secure a doctor wi...Of course you should be able to secure a doctor with the same attributes without the extra costs. By the way the externalities here are much less than the cost of the service.<BR/><BR/>There is a proposal to restrict entry of smokers into NZ but no such suggestion here. I think smokers should be excluded.hchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799594181016858701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-10927134991682642882008-11-19T16:30:00.000+11:002008-11-19T16:30:00.000+11:00In this particular case it seems that a pretty sim...In this particular case it seems that a pretty simple calculation might show that over x years the father and mother might save y australian lives or z x 100 Mallee farmers from skin cancer that WOULD NOT be saved if the doctor was not there. Should be worth at least $235,000 over the next 30- 40 years.<BR/><BR/>In this case is in entirely possible, tho not necessarily certain, that the father might not be easily replaced. So his going may leave a gap.<BR/><BR/>Harry - what is the cost of a smoker to the Oz taxpayers and are smokers denied immigration?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-84816301976223145712008-11-18T19:43:00.000+11:002008-11-18T19:43:00.000+11:00We signed the convention right? Morally for me ra...We signed the convention right? <BR/><BR/>Morally for me ratifying a convention on the rights of persons with disabilities is as serious and as important as ratifying say the Geneva convention on the treatment of prisoners of war.<BR/><BR/>Children with disabilities should be treated like other children. It's their parents who are applying for immigration and they should be assessed not the kids.<BR/><BR/>We don't asses kids of applicants for anything but disabilities. Why? <BR/><BR/>BTW, what's the social cost associated with a boy with ADHD or some other behavioral problem? Why don't we test for that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-17394930895702009662008-11-18T19:26:00.000+11:002008-11-18T19:26:00.000+11:00Don't be silly Rabee.This is motherhood stuff.How ...Don't be silly Rabee.<BR/><BR/>This is motherhood stuff.<BR/><BR/>How do you do decide to admit under a limited immigration quota?<BR/><BR/>Certainly UN values will carry no weight.hchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799594181016858701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-84753279840433033272008-11-18T19:13:00.000+11:002008-11-18T19:13:00.000+11:00Harry You may be shocked to know that the Howard g...Harry <BR/><BR/>You may be shocked to know that the Howard government (yes that's John W. Howard---subject, I gather, of unusual and unnatural affections on your part) signed the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities at the United Nations on the 30th March 2007.<BR/><BR/>Here is Article 18 - Liberty of movement and nationality (seems to me we're not meeting our international obligations)<BR/><BR/>1. States Parties shall recognize the rights of persons with disabilities to liberty of movement, to freedom to choose their residence and to a nationality, on an equal basis with others, including by ensuring that persons with disabilities:<BR/><BR/>Have the right to acquire and change a nationality and are not deprived of their nationality arbitrarily or on the basis of disability;<BR/><BR/>Are not deprived, on the basis of disability, of their ability to obtain, possess and utilize documentation of their nationality or other documentation of identification, or to utilize relevant processes such as immigration proceedings, that may be needed to facilitate exercise of the right to liberty of movement;<BR/><BR/>Are free to leave any country, including their own;<BR/><BR/>Are not deprived, arbitrarily or on the basis of disability, of the right to enter their own country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com