tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post5893761963356990316..comments2023-11-03T19:05:08.512+11:00Comments on Harry Clarke: Risk of deathUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-30379499156003470372008-10-18T18:30:00.000+11:002008-10-18T18:30:00.000+11:00I think all who smokes know that smoking decreases...I think all who smokes know that smoking decreases their life span? If you want to live long life with your loved ones then quit smoking with the help of <A HREF="http://www.chantixhome.com/" REL="nofollow"> chantix </A>. Your health problems or immature death due to smoking can put your family and loved ones in endless suffering which few of the smokers thinks over it. <A HREF="http://www.chantixhome.com/" REL="nofollow"> http://www.chantixhome.com/ </A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-88022262482979764142008-09-07T12:30:00.000+10:002008-09-07T12:30:00.000+10:00Perhaps the reason for the relative absence of hea...Perhaps the reason for the relative absence of heart disease in the smokers is because of the tremendous strides in addressing CHD over the last 30 years, whereas there has been effectively no progress in treating lung cancer. <BR/><BR/>Smokers also need to increase their antioxidant intake because smoking is markedly depletes our innate antioxidant defences. <BR/><BR/>Smokers, and probably everyone else, should avoid supplements containing beta carotene, studies indicate it increases the risk for lung cancer in smokers and recently someone informed me this is also true of non-smokers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-1527641075423119192008-09-06T18:24:00.000+10:002008-09-06T18:24:00.000+10:00Like chris lloyd I woulda thought heart disease wa...Like chris lloyd I woulda thought heart disease was higherAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-11811679556631028952008-09-06T18:22:00.000+10:002008-09-06T18:22:00.000+10:00Glad you liked iit HArry."Overall of 1000 60 year ...Glad you liked iit HArry.<BR/><BR/>"Overall of 1000 60 year old male individuals, 115 never-smokers will die within 10 years, 256 smokers will die and 166 former smokers will die"<BR/><BR/>afaics - off the top of my head - the 256 smokers can be seen to contain 115 never smokers - so that is 141 extra dead because they smoked (possibly) .<BR/><BR/>and same with 166 former smokers = 166- 115 = 51 extra because they smoked (possibly).<BR/><BR/>So giving up looks good.<BR/><BR/>Is that a legit statistical conclusion?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-87893975762358404692008-09-06T07:22:00.000+10:002008-09-06T07:22:00.000+10:00That's a great graph.That's a great graph.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-87690287618547810782008-09-06T00:16:00.000+10:002008-09-06T00:16:00.000+10:00It's an interesting graphic Harry. Tables of numbe...It's an interesting graphic Harry. Tables of numbers are very hard to digest. Replacing the numbers with circles makes pattern recognition, contrast and matching much easier. So I like the graphic a lot.<BR/><BR/>I am not sure that the “former smoker” category is helpful. When did they stop smoking? The graphics makes it look like they might as well have continued. I would need to read the paper to find out – which is a failure of the graphic. (I did some meta-analysis in the 90s and it seemed that if you gave up smoking you ended up at about double baseline risk after 10-20 years. The graphic should reflect this if the category “former smoker” was appropriately defined).<BR/><BR/>The graphic puts the hysteria about road accidents in perspective. Even total accidents are a minor nuisance. Notice how the “falls followed by hip surgery complications” kick in at higher ages. <BR/><BR/>What I do not understand is why heart disease is not more clearly associated with smoking. I have had the notion that the exceed mortality from smoking was as much heart related as lung cancer related. The chart does not really show that – though the risk kicks in earlier with smokers. It’s probably a visual baseline effect. Heart disease is high for all groups so the excess mortality for smokers is not as visually clear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com