tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post7498577484871078089..comments2023-11-03T19:05:08.512+11:00Comments on Harry Clarke: Supporting the right in the face of leftist barbarismUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-72006225325611330442007-11-23T22:16:00.000+11:002007-11-23T22:16:00.000+11:00Lol . Lloyd come to Lovell's defense and pretnds h...Lol . Lloyd come to Lovell's defense and pretnds he's being objective.<BR/><BR/>"he wasn't barbaric at all", he asserts.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Then there's the walrus himself attempting to defend his hono.He isn't a low rent barbarian at all and people just obsess about him. As if.<BR/><BR/>Lovell. You truly disgust people. In fact you make feel sick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-591214033834392007-11-15T12:38:00.000+11:002007-11-15T12:38:00.000+11:00Harry, While I agree that the KL post was over the...Harry, <BR/><BR/>While I agree that the KL post was over the top and ineffiective, it is a straw man to use his article as the argument against Howard being involved in such functions. The point, in case you missed it (which would be easy from KL’s post but is part of the past five years of politics), is that Howard committed Australian troops to an illegal and tragic war on the basis of intelligence he well knew was false and against the overwhelpming wishes of the people at the time. Depending on how open you are to logic, between 100,000 and 1,000,000 are now dead because of the Iraq debacle. This serves as a nice metapor (no tragic repetition) of WW1. Which makes Howard being involved in any event even tangentially related to war a cause of great anger to me and others. <BR/><BR/>Does it dishonour dead soliders to say that they died needlessly and were sacrificed on the altar of old men’s pride? If the truth dishonours them then so be it. Truth is a much higher cause than feigned outrage and mindless patriotism. Every war has a winner and a loser. So statistically, half die in a lost cause. Actually more than half since the losers lose more soldiers. And if there is a wrong side and a right side in each war, then roughly half the dead soldiers die for a wrong cause. So there you have it in pure logic. Most soldiers die fighting for a lost or wrong cause. Or did I just miss the part where God is on our side?<BR/><BR/>You are wrong the accuse KL of hypocricy. He would need to give his rant at the war memorial on Sunday to be polticiising the event. He is politicising discussion of the event, not the event itself. Nothing wrong with that in princple. People have made plenty of political points in relation to the war in Iraq. Is this politicising the war? No. Only the discussion of the war which is always poltiical. You are just playing word games Harry. It would have been better for you to just link to KL’s post and reserve your contempt for people who really do harm, rather than those who are just bad mannered.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-74967928978328092172007-11-15T09:06:00.000+11:002007-11-15T09:06:00.000+11:00"If Kevin Rudd wins the forthcoming election it wi..."If Kevin Rudd wins the forthcoming election it will be no thanks to this bunch. Indeed Rudd would retain towards them the same contempt that I do. "<BR/>Amen to that sentiment.<BR/>A well written and carefully considered post Harry , thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-38253361002271736862007-11-14T19:25:00.000+11:002007-11-14T19:25:00.000+11:00Your post Ken contained almost no analysis of the ...Your post Ken contained almost no analysis of the role of the Head of State. You simply asserted he should be in charge of these memorial occasions. <BR/><BR/>Your post took this meaningful and important occasion and used it to present a diatribe against John Howard. <BR/><BR/>You imputed motives without evidence, you even degraded the memory of those killed by suggesting they died for dishonourable causes. <BR/><BR/>Read your original post and tell anyone it was an analysis of the role of Head of State, It was not. Why should I then respond to it in these terms? <BR/><BR/>The language you apply to Howard applies pretty well to you. It was a foul-mouthed rant with no redeeming feature whatever. <BR/><BR/>And I am perfectly entitled to criticise the narky barbarism you displayed.hchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799594181016858701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-16692191119847446332007-11-14T18:40:00.000+11:002007-11-14T18:40:00.000+11:00Gosh Harry, I came over here from 'Missing Link' e...Gosh Harry, I came over here from 'Missing Link' expecting to find something about the role of an Australian head of state and all I found was another dreary rant about how much Teh Left hates John Howard. I guess you were having the blog equivalent of a slow news day.<BR/><BR/>Still you gave Joe Cambria a forum to air his obsessive fantasies about me one more time so you made one person happy.Ken_Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11709548046018362581noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-69244029840312588712007-11-14T03:41:00.000+11:002007-11-14T03:41:00.000+11:00HarryI wasn't attacking anyones sexual orientation...Harry<BR/><BR/>I wasn't attacking anyones sexual orientation in the least. In fact it was the opposite. I was and am totally indfferent to anyone's orientation as I couldn't care less.<BR/><BR/>I was actually amused that the person in question would think anyones would be interested.<BR/><BR/>What I said was that the person is such a low rent twat that anyone would run away from him, either hetro or gay.<BR/><BR/>I really don't think you read it properly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-65835698373580001292007-11-14T02:24:00.000+11:002007-11-14T02:24:00.000+11:00Aaargh!! I meant "crazies".Aaargh!! <BR/><BR/>I meant "crazies".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-61181503161140367012007-11-14T02:23:00.000+11:002007-11-14T02:23:00.000+11:00Harry,My point was not to justify any moral tit-fo...Harry,<BR/><BR/>My point was not to justify any moral tit-for-tat. It was to say that there are crazy's out there on both sides and the best response is to not bother with them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-52913955360784605562007-11-13T21:28:00.000+11:002007-11-13T21:28:00.000+11:00I deleted the last post. I will delete any post th...I deleted the last post. I will delete any post that attacks anyone's claimed sexual orientation. <BR/><BR/>The attack made was anonymous.hchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799594181016858701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-62006735429733483332007-11-13T20:01:00.000+11:002007-11-13T20:01:00.000+11:00Some good comments here and some irrelevancies.Spi...Some good comments here and some irrelevancies.<BR/><BR/>Spiros and Mark seem to suggest that a type of moral tit-for-tat operates. the right engage in disgusting politics so the left can too. I think this is a poor argument - disgusting commentary deserves condemnation whereever it appears. <BR/><BR/>And I don't always enjoy the comments on Tim Blair's blog - often I do - but I haven't seen anything rivaling the vicious nastiness of KL's post.hchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13799594181016858701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-9108403460337620622007-11-13T15:29:00.000+11:002007-11-13T15:29:00.000+11:00Forgive me but to be perfectly honest, Spiros the ...Forgive me but to be perfectly honest, Spiros the only thing I ever see from you are the Tifossi comments for the left.<BR/><BR/>I never see any economic justifcation from you to support your cause. Just seems like mindless drivel to me.... like oh, howard is going to lose because of workchoices.<BR/><BR/>Well of course he's going to lose because of the economic lies put out by the union trogs and their poltical arm. However I never see an argument from you as to why regulation of the labor market is superior to free labor markets.<BR/><BR/>So there's probably a good reason you'"draw the line" as you'd get laughed out of existence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-1674808496408985902007-11-13T14:10:00.000+11:002007-11-13T14:10:00.000+11:00"I notice you haven't been there for a while."You'..."I notice you haven't been there for a while."<BR/><BR/>You've got to draw the line somewhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-27767307653354253182007-11-13T13:11:00.000+11:002007-11-13T13:11:00.000+11:00"Or at Catallaxy, where anyone not toeing their ki..."Or at Catallaxy, where anyone not toeing their kindergarten libertarian line gets abused by all and sundry. It's even happened to you!"<BR/><BR/>Not true, Spiros. there are numerous lefties there who don''t get abused. It's jsut the really stupid ones that do. I notice you haven't been there for a while.<BR/><BR/><BR/>How's your politics is soccer affliction going , Mr. Tifosso.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-79011155267877023682007-11-13T13:08:00.000+11:002007-11-13T13:08:00.000+11:00HarryYou think i am the way I am because I was bor...Harry<BR/><BR/>You think i am the way I am because I was born like this? I wouldn't be if the left weren't around to irritate my tourettes.<BR/><BR/>People like Ken Lovell are basically the arse end of humanity. Have you ever seen him? Take a look at this pic.<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://kenalovell.com/images/ken_lovell_for_web.jpg<BR/><BR/><BR/>Isn't he low rent.<BR/><BR/>There is nothing to ever say to the Walrus ( Ken L) other than turf abuse and cause him deep pain. Continually! He deserves it.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The disgusting idiot was accusing the British government of planting the London bombs. .... a few hours before the Scotland incident.<BR/><BR/><BR/>But why are you even surprised at the ugly walrus' attitude? That's par for the course by lefties.<BR/><BR/>They are always into character assasination. Even their well known economic professors spend most of their time impugning motives and stabbing people with character assasinations.<BR/><BR/>Look at the back stabbing Homer for instance.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Homer:<BR/><BR/>Why would I say anything about Harry Potter. the guy is a first class clown. <BR/><BR/>I'll enjoy these 3 years. Harry's front bench will be the gift that keeps on giving.<BR/><BR/>JCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-39913875060620198102007-11-13T12:45:00.000+11:002007-11-13T12:45:00.000+11:00indeed I would evwen advance comments made about t...indeed I would evwen advance comments made about the Anhillator.<BR/><BR/>Wait til he becomes PM.<BR/><BR/>watch timbo then or even JC or Sinkers<BR/><BR/>very very naiveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-24734309955406793972007-11-13T11:02:00.000+11:002007-11-13T11:02:00.000+11:00Harry, FYI it was one of Howard's enemies in the L...Harry, FYI it was one of Howard's enemies in the Liberal Party who named him The Rodent.<BR/><BR/>And if you are going to get high and mighty about groupthink or echo chambers on left wing blogs, have a look at Tom Blair's, the very exemplar of rightwingers congratulating each other on how smart they are, while lining up, like a pack of dogs, to attack the target du jour.<BR/><BR/>Or at Catallaxy, where anyone not toeing their kindergarten libertarian line gets abused by all and sundry. It's even happened to you!<BR/><BR/>And really, your defence of Howard is naive. While Howard doesn't make vicious attacks himself, he gets his minions like Bill Heffernan to do his dirty work for him. <BR/><BR/>There are bullies, and there are cowards who egg bullies on while keeping a safe distance. Howard is one of the latter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-34181245640169572882007-11-13T09:54:00.000+11:002007-11-13T09:54:00.000+11:00A deceased member of Joh's white-shoe brigade had ...A deceased member of Joh's white-shoe brigade had the good sense to state that his approach to politics was like barracking for the football - barrack for your own side and barrack against the other - (near) regardless of the merits. It would be nice if the more passionate on both sides would appreciate or be as upfront about this and not think they are really analyzing anything with any sophistication. Posts like this (and similar ones on the right too) seem like the equivalent of the Richmond Grog (cheer) Squad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-10093089871775675552007-11-13T09:04:00.000+11:002007-11-13T09:04:00.000+11:00Given the pristine, as-new, condition that you've ...Given the pristine, as-new, condition that you've apparently kept your faculties of analysis Harry, mate! I for one am never surprised by your take on Australian politics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-22031270.post-45641430218008677312007-11-13T01:32:00.000+11:002007-11-13T01:32:00.000+11:00Harry,I agree with what you say about the Road to ...Harry,<BR/><BR/>I agree with what you say about the Road to Surfdom post.<BR/><BR/>But there are equally crazy and prejudiced posts from the right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com